| Impactante la información acerca de esta tecnología, demuestra que mientras más afectamos el medio ambiente mucho mas complejas son las soluciones. Nuestra intervención siempre es imperfecta |
| Nombre: jaime pereira (16/02/2005) |
E-mail: jaimepereirag@yahoocom |
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| Don't speak Spanish but an excellent website with good informative links. No to wind turbines!!! |
| Nombre: Alan Lockhart (16/02/2005) |
E-mail: - |
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Duchamp mentions lack of objectivity in previous studies he commentates on, but I feel he should look toward his own studies in this respect.
I admire the fact-finding and presentation of statistics of bird mortality, and this is certainly an unacceptable situation, it's hard to disagree with Duchamp's apparent view that something needs to be done, but clearly Duchamp's only suggestion is that wind turbines are bad for birds, more expensive than nuclear power (which is far from true, especially when taking into account the financial, environmental, safety and security costs of disposing of nuclear waste and the lengthy job of decommissioning reactors), and therefore should be abandoned as an additional source of energy. Also, on the subject of natural gas (I assume this is what Duchamp means when referring to 'gas turbines', which of course are steam-powered turbines present in all conventional power stations, including nuclear), Duchamp does not broach the subject of either diminishing natural gas reserves, the rising cost of these reserves as they become more scarce (pushing gas-generated electricity well above the cost of wind-generated electricity), or the ecological impact of gas-fired power stations, most notably greenhouse gas emissions contributing to global warming.
Most importantly though, given the scope of Duchamp's paper, the matter of solutions to this problem has not been addressed beyond Duchamp's apparent dislike of wind turbines. Research, for example, has been carried out into the use of high-frequency sound waves, inaudible to humans but unpleasant to animals and birds. I'm not suggesting this this is the solution, as clearly further research is needed into how this may affect the flightpaths of migrating birds, but I am merely suggesting it as one of myriad ways that have not yet been explored to properly address this problem. |
| Nombre: none (18/02/2005) |
E-mail: martinofmoscow@hotmail.com |
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It seems to me you haven't read the article that explains the vanity of the whole windfarm effort: wind's erratic behaviour is incompatible with the stability of tension needed by the national grid. Hence the need for back-up, which negates CO2 savings and sends the overall cost sky-high. See: www.iberica2000.org/Es/Articulo.asp?Id=1186
There are plenty of alternatives:
www.iberica2000.org/Es/Articulo.asp?Id=1922
This one is in Spanish, but with google's linguistic tools you should be able to get the gist of it. I wish I had the time to translate it myself. |
| Nombre: mark duchamp (19/02/2005) |
E-mail: markduchamp@hotmail.com |
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| Me gustaria obtener este artículo en español. Este artículo es excelente, antes había leido algo similar en Iberica 2000. Hace falta se concienticen quienes creen que esta ¨energía es limpia¨ y ¨barata¨ por los grandes subsidios que reciben a costa del usuari, sin contar los daños irrevresibles del ambiente |
| Nombre: Alfonso Coronel P. (26/05/2006) |
E-mail: corsalas@hotmail.com |
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| Por desgracia Iberica 2000 no tiene traductor. Haría falta un voluntario para traducir este artículo. |
| Nombre: mark duchamp (27/05/2006) |
E-mail: markduchamp@hotmail.com |
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| I'm a 17years old birdwatcher from Romania, Danube Delta and here we have only 6 turbines but unfortunately they want to 'plant' another 8000. We must fight for the birds and your article is great. Keep fighting and we can win!!! |
| Nombre: Pârâu Liviu Gabriel (31/01/2007) |
E-mail: liviu_parau@yahoo.com |
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I am an ornithologist directly involved in windfarms ready to be deployed in Danube Delta and Dobrogea the largest migration route in Europe (Via POntica). The tragic facts of this article and the statistics are raising a big concern and I agree we all have to do something to stop the development of such investments in inappropriate places. It will be to late and our government is trying to comply to some idiot EU legislation by blindly following some rules ignoring the others that are not profitable like – environment protection.
First when I was in Spain they where just trying to implement the turbines and I was looking at the eagles gliding in the area. At that time great efforts where made to keep the eagle population in place and huge sums of money where invested to protect them… it is funny that a simple “eco-friendly” investment is about to extinct them in the near future.
Dark interests are eroding the European system and the masking of this legal traffic with Green Cards is known to few. In our area all the eolian turbines are of first generation (second hand) imported from Germany, Denmark etc. It is know the mortality of those turbines is higher and the noise is greater. Another thing is as follows – all the projects are in nature reserves like – Natura 2000, National Parks and The Danube Delta.
It is a tragedy to be unleashed in the following years… stay tuned. We are doomed to kill ourselves no matter what.
Help is needed. If someone wants to get involved please let me know. Also visit the website of the organisation most active and with a clear position regarding the subject - Eco Pontica
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| Nombre: Daniel Petrescu (31/01/2007) |
E-mail: danielpetrescu@yahoo.com |
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I do produce small turbines,and our main concern is to develop high-frequency whistles and uv leds(in the helix shape) these two simple and almost costless devices can level down almost 95% of birds,bats and insects death.
I don´t have data on large turbines,but I think its stupid and unloyal to condenate the most ecological(except maybe for solar systems that are innefective at present time) system that exists!!
here in Brasil they are building hidroelectric plants that will flood an extension of the rain forest almost the size of two spains!! gas or coal plants warms up the planet causing death of bears,birds and an outrage number of humans,by flood or hurricanes...nuclear plants are a sitting bomb!!! imagine in 25 30 years the amount of nuclear plants obsolete ...some new chernobyl??instead of researching birds death(that i think is necessary) some eco-boaring should be researching how not to kill them,and means to avoid these deaths!! High frequency invisible fences,beans of uv harmless light(visible for most birds)are one of these...have you ever wandered how many birds are killed with pollutiion?? come on...grow up! |
| Nombre: Jan Mozol (12/12/2007) |
E-mail: janmozol@ig.com .br |
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Unfortunately, the devices you are talking about are impractical, or simply don't work. If they did, windfarm operators and ornithologists would adopt them.
As for the virtues of windfarms : the uncontrolable nature of wind, the wide fluctuations in the energy it produces, the need for 24 hour backup by carbon-fired power plants, and cost are handicaps they haven't been able to overcome. Subventions and corruption alone are keeping them alive.
Soon the fraud will be evident.
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| Nombre: mark duchamp (13/12/2007) |
E-mail: - |
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the fraud is evident
This atricle is fraud
Please also mention how many birds are killed:
in trafic
in hunting
electrical power lines
and then we all will notice that we can build a whole lot of windfarms before we reach the numbers by other means of killing. |
| Nombre: Clever (09/02/2008) |
E-mail: clever@mailinator.com |
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So your idea is: since power lines, cars, windows, poisoning etc. kill billions of birds each year in the world, we may kill the same amount with windfarms?
And you call yourself "clever" ?
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| Nombre: Ironic (10/02/2008) |
E-mail: - |
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| Needless to say the situation is unacceptable. What we need is to come up with a solution to keep the kill to a minimum. What is the minimum? If we are killing more than they can reproduce -- it's definitely bad bad bad. Say, we want to have at least a slow growth of the birds population of 2-5% per year until things stabilize in the next 20-30 years. |
| Nombre: Zard (23/04/2009) |
E-mail: zard002@yahoo.com |
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